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Scotland's currency.
The Scottish pound. Clear, credible, ours.

Currency is the question that has defined - and at times derailed - the Scottish independence debate. This platform gives a clear answer: an independent Scotland will use the Scottish pound, issued and managed by a new Scottish central bank. This document explains what that means, why it is the right choice, and what it means in practice for Scottish households, businesses, and savers.

The Pitch

"The currency question killed the independence case in 2014 because the answer wasn't good enough. This time the answer is different and it's ours. The Scottish pound - not as a stepping stone to somewhere else, but as Scotland's permanent monetary expression of what independence means. Launched at parity, managed by a Scottish central bank, backed by LVT revenues and a sovereign wealth fund. Norway has done this for a century. So can we."

Contents

§ 01 - The Answer

The Scottish pound.
No ambiguity. No "we'll decide later." A clear answer to a clear question.

An independent Scotland will use the Scottish pound - a new currency, issued by a new Scottish central bank, managed in Scotland's interest. This is the platform's position, stated plainly at the outset, because this question has spent too long being deferred, hedged, and avoided in the independence debate.

The Scottish pound will launch at parity with sterling on independence day. One Scottish pound equals one pound sterling at the point of launch. Your bank account balance does not change. Your salary does not change. Your mortgage does not change. The number on your payslip is the same the day after independence as the day before. What changes is who controls the currency - and that change is the point.

The three options - and why two of them are not real independence:

Option 1 - Keep using sterling (sterlingisation). Scotland uses the pound but has no say in how it is managed. Interest rates are set by the Bank of England for England's economy. Scotland cannot respond to its own economic conditions. This is not monetary independence - it is monetary dependency with a different flag.

Option 2 - Join the Euro immediately. Scotland surrenders monetary policy to the ECB, whose interest rates are set for the average of twenty economies from Germany to Greece. Scotland cannot devalue in a downturn, cannot set rates for Scottish conditions, and has no lender of last resort in a crisis. This is also not monetary independence - it is a different form of the same problem.

Option 3 - The Scottish pound. Scotland sets its own interest rates, manages its own exchange rate, and retains the tools to respond to its own economic conditions. This is what monetary independence actually means. This is Option 3.

Norway, Sweden, and Denmark - three of Europe's wealthiest countries per capita - all have their own currencies. None of them is rushing to join the Euro. The monetary framework this platform proposes is not unusual or experimental. It is the standard operating model for a well-governed small European nation with a strong fiscal base.

§ 02 - Why Not Keep Using Sterling?

Sterlingisation is not independence. It is dependency with a different flag.
The argument for keeping the pound - and why it fails.

The case for keeping sterling is superficially appealing: no transition costs, no exchange rate risk on trade with England, no need to build new monetary institutions. These are real short-term benefits. They come at a permanent long-term cost.

A country that uses a foreign currency without controlling it - "sterlingisation," named after similar arrangements in dollarised economies - gives up three of the most important tools in economic management:

Interest rates
Set by the Bank of England. For England.

The Bank of England's Monetary Policy Committee sets interest rates based on UK-wide economic conditions - dominated by London and the South East, which together account for close to 40% of UK GDP. When England faces inflationary pressure, rates rise - regardless of whether Scotland needs higher rates. When England faces recession, rates fall - regardless of whether Scotland is overheating. Scotland cannot respond to its own economic cycle. Ever.

Exchange rate
Managed for the UK. Not for Scotland.

When Scotland's economy is hit by a sector-specific shock - say, a collapse in North Sea revenues, or a sharp fall in whisky exports - one of the most powerful adjustment mechanisms is exchange rate depreciation. A weaker currency makes Scottish exports more competitive and absorbs the shock through price adjustment rather than unemployment. Under sterlingisation, this tool is permanently unavailable. Scotland absorbs shocks through unemployment instead.

Lender of last resort
The Bank of England has no obligation to Scotland.

In a financial crisis, the central bank acts as lender of last resort - providing emergency liquidity to banks facing runs. The Bank of England's obligation under sterlingisation is to England's financial system. Scotland's banks would face a crisis without a guaranteed backstop. This is not a theoretical risk - it is the specific mechanism that made the 2008 financial crisis so devastating for countries without their own central banks.

Panama and Ecuador use the US dollar without controlling it. They have no monetary policy. They cannot devalue. They cannot set interest rates. When the US economy diverges from theirs - which it frequently does - they have no tools to respond except spending cuts and wage reductions. This is the economic condition that sterlingisation would impose on Scotland permanently.

The 2014 independence campaign's plan to keep sterling was vetoed by George Osborne before the referendum. That veto exposed the fundamental weakness of the position: Scotland's monetary policy would have been subject to English political consent. That is not independence.

Sterlingisation also creates a specific fiscal problem. A government that cannot issue its own currency must hold foreign exchange reserves to fund any balance of payments deficit. Scotland, using sterling it does not issue, would be entirely dependent on tax revenues and borrowing to fund public spending - with no monetary backstop in a crisis. This is the arrangement that pushed Argentina, and later Greece, toward debt crises. Scotland should not build its independence on the same foundation.

§ 03 - Why Not the Euro Immediately?

The Euro is the right destination for some countries. It is not the right starting point for Scotland.
The timing matters as much as the direction.

The Euro has delivered genuine benefits to its members - price stability, eliminated transaction costs within the eurozone, and the implicit credibility of the ECB's institutional framework. For countries that entered with broadly converged economic cycles and strong fiscal positions, membership has been largely positive.

For countries that entered before convergence was achieved - or that faced asymmetric shocks the ECB's single interest rate could not address - the experience has been considerably harder. Greece, Portugal, Ireland, and Spain all experienced debt crises partly exacerbated by the inability to devalue or set national interest rates. Scotland's economy - driven by energy, financial services, and export-oriented manufacturing - would frequently be out of sync with the Franco-German core that effectively sets ECB policy.

20Economies sharing one ECB interest rate - from Germany to Greece
2014Year Norway used currency depreciation to absorb oil price shock - unavailable to eurozone members
0Eurozone members with AAA ratings that joined before establishing strong fiscal positions independently

More fundamentally: Scotland would be joining the Euro from a position of fiscal deficit and without an established track record of monetary management. The Euro provides no lender of last resort for individual members in fiscal distress - as Greece discovered. Joining before Scotland has built its own institutional credibility and fiscal strength would expose Scottish public finances to precisely the vulnerability this platform is designed to avoid.

The Scottish pound is not a compromise or a stepping stone. It is the right long-term monetary policy for Scotland's economy. The question of future Euro membership is explicitly left to future democratic decision - not predetermined by this platform, and not ruled out. But Scotland arrives at that question, if it arrives at it at all, from a position of monetary strength rather than structural dependency.

§ 04 - The Scottish Pound in Practice

How it works.
The mechanics, the timeline, and the institutions behind it.

The Scottish pound does not appear from nowhere on independence day. The institutional infrastructure is built in advance, and the transition is managed to minimise disruption. Here is the sequence.

Pre-independencePreparation
Scottish Reserve Bank established and operational before launch

The Scottish Reserve Bank - Scotland's new central bank - is constituted by Act of the Scottish Parliament and fully operational before independence day. Its mandate (2% inflation target), governance (independent Monetary Policy Committee with published minutes), and initial policy framework are published well in advance. Sterling reserves are assembled to defend the initial parity. The Scottish Debt Management Office - which will conduct bond auctions - is staffed and ready.

Day 1Launch at parity
One Scottish pound = one pound sterling

The Scottish pound launches at parity with sterling. Every bank account, mortgage, salary, pension, and contract denominated in sterling is redenominated in Scottish pounds at 1:1. No one gains or loses money in the conversion. The number on every financial instrument is unchanged. This is the conversion mechanism used in every comparable currency introduction - the Czech-Slovak split in 1993, the Baltic states in the early 1990s - and it works because the parity is set and enforced at the point of transition.

Years 1–3Managed float
Scottish pound floats within a managed band against sterling and the euro

The Scottish Reserve Bank manages the exchange rate within a declared band - initially ±5% against a sterling/euro basket. This provides stability for businesses planning cross-border contracts while allowing the exchange rate to respond to economic conditions. Sterling reserves are deployed to defend the band if necessary. This is identical to the approach used by Denmark (which maintains a peg to the euro), Norway (which manages volatility through Norges Bank intervention), and the Czech Republic in its early independence period.

Years 3+Free float
Scottish pound fully floats as track record and reserves develop

As the sovereign wealth fund builds and Scotland's fiscal credibility is established, the Scottish pound moves to a clean float - its value determined by market forces, with Scottish Reserve Bank intervention only in cases of disorderly market conditions. At this point, the Scottish pound is a fully independent currency managed on the same basis as the Norwegian krone or Swedish krona.

Notes for day-to-day life: Scottish banknotes are already issued by Scottish banks - the Royal Bank of Scotland, Bank of Scotland, and Clydesdale Bank all currently issue sterling-denominated Scottish notes. The physical infrastructure for Scottish note issuance exists. Under independence, these notes become Scottish pound-denominated. The change is monetary, not physical.

Cards, online banking, and digital payments work identically to today. When you pay by card in Scotland, the transaction processes in Scottish pounds. When you pay by card in England, the transaction converts at the prevailing exchange rate - exactly as it does today when you pay by card in Europe.

§ 05 - What This Means for Your Household

The questions that actually matter.
Five Scottish households - what changes, what doesn't, and what gets better.

Abstract monetary policy is one thing. What happens to your mortgage, your savings, your pension, and your salary is another. Here are five specific Scottish households and what the currency transition means for each of them - honestly, including the risks as well as the benefits.

Household 1 - First-time buyer

Keiran, 31, Edinburgh. Just taken out a £220,000 mortgage at 4.8% fixed for 5 years.
Mortgage on independence dayRedenominated 1:1 in Scottish pounds
Monthly paymentUnchanged in number
Fixed rate periodHonoured in full - no renegotiation
At remortgage (year 5)Scottish pound mortgage rate applies
Long-term mortgage rate outlookFalls as fiscal credibility builds
House price outlookLVT suppresses land speculation - affordability improves

Keiran's immediate position is unchanged. His existing fixed-rate mortgage continues at the agreed rate in Scottish pounds. When it comes to remortgage in five years, Scottish pound mortgage rates will reflect the Scottish Reserve Bank's base rate - which, on the fiscal trajectory in this platform, should be lower than UK rates by that point as Scotland's fiscal position improves.

The risk: if the Scottish pound weakens significantly against sterling in years 1–3, Scottish interest rates may need to rise temporarily to defend the currency, which would affect Keiran's remortgage rate. The managed float and sterling reserves are specifically designed to prevent disorderly depreciation during the transition period. The risk is real but bounded and temporary. The long-term trajectory is positive.

Household 2 - Near-retirement saver

Margaret, 58, Perth. £95,000 in a pension pot, £18,000 in a cash ISA, owns her home outright.
Cash ISA balance on independence dayRedenominated 1:1 in Scottish pounds
Pension pot valueRedenominated 1:1 - no immediate change
State pension entitlementGuaranteed by independent Scottish government
Private pension (Scottish employer)Paid in Scottish pounds - no change
If pension invested in UK assetsSterling value fluctuates with exchange rate
Purchasing power in ScotlandProtected by 2% inflation target

Margaret's cash savings and Scottish-denominated pension are unchanged in numerical value. Her purchasing power within Scotland is protected by the Scottish Reserve Bank's inflation mandate. The state pension is guaranteed by the Scottish government - this platform is explicit that Scotland meets all inherited pension obligations.

The risk for Margaret is on any portion of her pension invested in UK-denominated assets - if the Scottish pound weakens against sterling, those assets are worth more in Scottish pounds; if it strengthens, worth less. This is exchange rate risk, and it is real. It is also identical to the exchange rate risk Margaret currently runs on any assets she holds denominated in dollars or euros. It is a normal feature of holding internationally diversified assets, not a uniquely dangerous consequence of independence.

Household 3 - Public sector worker

David, 44, Glasgow. NHS nurse. Salary £38,000. Defined benefit pension through NHS Scotland.
Salary on independence dayRedenominated 1:1 - same number
NHS Scotland defined benefit pensionObligation transfers to Scottish government
Real wage outlook (NHS pay policy)Improves - workforce investment commitment
Housing costsLVT suppresses land prices - renting cheaper
Immigration policy for colleaguesNHS-specific visa route - team stabilises
David is in one of the strongest positions among the household examples. His salary and pension transfer cleanly at 1:1. His NHS defined benefit pension - a liability of the Scottish government - is guaranteed. The platform's NHS workforce investment means his real pay improves in year 1. The housing affordability improvement from LVT is a significant quality-of-life gain on a salary of £38,000. The NHS worker who has been considering leaving for Australia looks at this platform and sees a reason to stay.

Household 4 - Small business owner trading with England

Fiona, 39, Dundee. Runs a food manufacturing business. 60% of sales to customers in England, 40% in Scotland.
Scottish sales (40%)Invoiced and settled in Scottish pounds - no change
English sales (60%)Invoiced in sterling, converted at prevailing rate
Exchange rate risk on English salesNew - currently zero within sterling area
EU export sales (currently friction-heavy)EU single market access - friction removed
Business rates (Non-Domestic Rates)Replaced by commercial LVT - site value, not turnover
Energy costsCharging reform and long-term contracts - competitive industrial power

Fiona faces the most genuine transition challenge of the five households. Her English sales generate sterling revenue that will need to be converted to Scottish pounds, creating exchange rate exposure she does not currently have. This is a real cost of the currency transition and it should not be dismissed.

Three things partially offset it. First, the managed float keeps exchange rate volatility within a bounded range in the early years - Fiona is not facing the kind of sharp swings that can devastate small businesses. Second, hedging instruments - forward contracts, currency options - are standard tools available to businesses of her size and will be developed by Scottish banks specifically for this purpose. Third, the opening of EU markets through Scottish membership provides new export opportunities that more than compensate for the transaction cost of English sales. Fiona's business has more customers and slightly more currency administration. That is a manageable trade-off.

Household 5 - Renter in a major city

Amira, 27, Edinburgh. Renting a one-bedroom flat at £1,400/month. Salary £32,000. No significant savings.
Salary on independence dayRedenominated 1:1 - same number
Rent on independence dayRedenominated 1:1 - same number
Rent trajectory (LVT effect)Land banking ends - supply increases - rents fall
Path to home ownershipLVT suppresses land prices - deposit requirement falls
Student debt (if any)Transitional relief scheme under education platform
EU freedom of movementRestored - can live and work across Europe
Amira has least exposure to the currency transition and most to gain from the platform overall. She holds no sterling-denominated assets that require conversion. Her salary and rent convert at 1:1. Her long-term position improves significantly: rents fall as LVT-driven housing supply increases; the path to ownership becomes realistic as land prices respond to LVT; EU freedom of movement reopens options closed by Brexit. Of the five households, Amira - the young renter with no property wealth - gains most from this platform. That is the intended distribution of benefit.

§ 06 - What This Means for Scottish Businesses

Transaction costs, exchange rate management, and the EU opportunity.
The honest assessment for businesses of different sizes and orientations.

The currency transition creates one genuine new cost for Scottish businesses trading with England: exchange rate management. This cost is real and should not be minimised. It is also manageable, familiar to any business that currently trades internationally, and offset by significant gains from EU single market re-entry.

For businesses trading primarily in Scotland - retailers, hospitality, professional services, construction, most SMEs - the currency transition is operationally straightforward. Their revenues and costs are both in Scottish pounds. They face no exchange rate risk. Their business rates fall as commercial LVT replaces the current non-domestic rates system. Their energy costs fall as Scotland reforms transmission charging and backs long-term contracts for industrial power. Their labour costs improve as the housing platform makes Edinburgh and Glasgow more affordable for workers.

For businesses trading with England - the genuine transition challenge is managing sterling receivables and payables. Scottish banks will develop specific currency products for this purpose: forward contracts allowing businesses to fix future exchange rates, multicurrency accounts, and automated hedging for regular sterling flows. These are standard banking products in every country that trades across currency borders. They add a small administrative cost - typically 0.3–0.5% of the transaction value in the managed float period - that falls as the exchange rate stabilises.

For businesses with EU ambitions - Scottish EU membership is a transformative opportunity. Current friction on EU exports - customs declarations, regulatory compliance costs, product certification - disappears with single market membership. Scotland's food and drink sector, its financial services sector, its life sciences companies, and its technology businesses all gain frictionless access to 450 million customers. The OBR estimates Brexit reduced UK trade by approximately 15%. Rejoining reverses most of that for Scottish exporters.

The net position for most Scottish businesses is positive. The exchange rate management cost on English trade is real but modest and familiar. The EU market opening is significant and structural. The lower energy costs, more competitive business rates, and better-paid, better-housed workforce are ongoing operational improvements. Scotland as a business environment becomes more competitive, not less, under this platform.

§ 07 - The 2014 Comparison

What was wrong with the 2014 currency position - and why this is different.
The lessons of a debate that was lost partly because the currency answer was inadequate.

In the 2014 independence referendum, the Scottish Government's currency plan was to continue using sterling in a formal currency union with the rest of the UK. The plan was credible in economic terms - currency unions between newly separated states are not unusual - but it had a fatal political vulnerability: it required the agreement of the Westminster government.

George Osborne, then Chancellor, announced that Westminster would not agree to a currency union. Ed Balls and Danny Alexander made the same pledge for Labour and the Liberal Democrats. The question "what is your Plan B?" was never adequately answered. The currency uncertainty became one of the most effective arguments deployed against independence.

The 2014 position failed not because sterling was the wrong answer economically, but because it made Scottish monetary policy dependent on English political consent. An independent Scotland whose currency policy can be vetoed by Westminster is not fully independent.

This platform's position requires the consent of no one outside Scotland. The Scottish pound is Scotland's decision, made by Scotland's parliament, managed by Scotland's central bank. It cannot be vetoed, blocked, or withdrawn by any external party.

The other lesson of 2014 is the importance of specificity. "We will keep the pound" was a political position. "We will launch the Scottish pound at parity with sterling, managed by the Scottish Reserve Bank under a 2% inflation mandate, with a managed float against a sterling/euro basket in years 1–3, backed by sterling reserves assembled in advance" is a policy. The difference between a position and a policy is the difference between a slogan and a plan. This platform is a plan.

§ 08 - The Euro Question

The honest long-term answer.
Possible. Not predetermined. Scotland's decision to make from a position of strength.

This platform does not commit Scotland to Euro membership. It does not rule it out. It treats the question as what it actually is: a significant constitutional decision that should be made by the Scottish people, through a referendum, when Scotland is in a position to assess the merits clearly - with its own currency established, its own track record built, and its own institutional credibility demonstrated.

Sweden has been an EU member since 1995. It has never adopted the Euro. The Swedish Riksbank sets Swedish interest rates. The Swedish krona is one of the world's most credible currencies. Sweden's GDP per capita is among the highest in Europe. Sweden made a democratic decision that monetary sovereignty was worth maintaining, and that decision has served it well. Scotland should make the same choice - consciously, from a position of strength, rather than by default.

The EU accession treaty technically requires a commitment to adopt the Euro "when conditions are met." In practice, joining the euro requires two years inside the EU's exchange rate mechanism, and entering that mechanism is at a country's own initiative. Sweden has never entered it, and Swedish voters rejected the euro in a 2003 referendum. This platform is transparent about Scotland's position: full EU membership is the goal; Euro adoption is a question for future democratic decision; the Scottish pound is Scotland's currency and Scotland intends to manage it well. Any future Scottish government seeking Euro membership would require a specific democratic mandate to do so.

§ 09 - The Hard Questions

The strongest objections - stated fairly, answered directly.
The currency debate deserves honest engagement, not political evasion.

The border and currency together. Businesses trading goods with England face two related questions after independence: the currency (addressed throughout this document) and customs arrangements. These are separable - the Scottish pound creates exchange rate considerations regardless of the customs arrangement; the customs arrangement is managed through bilateral negotiation regardless of the currency. The Border Question document addresses customs and the Common Travel Area in full.

"The Scottish pound will collapse - no one will want to hold a currency from a country running a 10% deficit."

The adjusted deficit is approximately 7.5% of GDP - significant, but comparable to the UK's own deficit at multiple points in its recent history without triggering a sterling crisis. Currency value is determined not just by the current deficit but by the credibility of the fiscal trajectory, the quality of the monetary institutions behind the currency, and the underlying strength of the economy.

Scotland's LVT revenue trajectory provides a structural fiscal improvement that bond markets will price from year one. The managed float, backed by sterling reserves assembled pre-independence, prevents speculative attack during the transition period. The sovereign wealth fund, built over the first decade from North Sea revenues, provides the long-term reserve buffer that makes the currency structurally credible.

The currency "collapse" scenario requires bond markets to simultaneously disbelieve the LVT revenue projections, disbelieve the institutional quality of the Scottish Reserve Bank, disbelieve Scotland's EU membership path, and disbelieve the underlying economic strength of a country with £800bn in financial assets under management and the best renewable energy resource in Europe. That is a lot of simultaneous scepticism. It is not supported by comparison with the countries that have actually launched their own currencies from broadly comparable positions.

"My mortgage will become more expensive - interest rates will rise to defend the currency."

In the managed float period, the Scottish Reserve Bank may need to set interest rates modestly higher than the Bank of England's rate to maintain exchange rate stability - this is possible and should be acknowledged. The scale and duration of this depends on how the currency launches and how credibly the fiscal framework is received by markets.

Existing fixed-rate mortgages are redenominated at 1:1 and their agreed rates are honoured for the fixed period - a homeowner on a 5-year fix is unaffected for the duration. Variable rate mortgages and remortgages would reflect Scottish rates from independence day.

The medium and long-term trajectory is favourable. As Scotland's fiscal credibility builds, Scottish interest rates converge downward toward the levels of Norway and Denmark - currently well below UK rates. A homeowner remortgaging in year 7 of Scottish independence is likely to face lower rates than under the Union baseline. The short-term transition risk is real; the long-term outlook is better.

"Scottish businesses will be cut off from their English customers - the currency border will destroy trade."

Ireland trades extensively and successfully with the UK despite having its own currency, its own central bank, and membership of the Euro - a currency the UK does not use. The currency difference creates transaction costs, not trade barriers. Those costs are real but modest - typically less than 0.5% of transaction value - and are standard tools for any business trading internationally.

More importantly, this framing treats England as Scotland's only trading partner. Scotland's EU membership would open or reopen frictionless trade with 450 million European customers, reversing the Brexit trade losses that Scotland voted against and has borne involuntarily. The net trading position - modest new friction with England, significantly reduced friction with Europe - is positive for most Scottish exporters.

The businesses most affected are those heavily concentrated on English sales with no EU exposure. For them, the currency management cost is real and the platform does not pretend otherwise. Hedging products, multicurrency banking, and the general normalisation of the exchange rate over time all reduce this cost progressively.

"You can't set up a central bank and a currency in a few months - it will take years and by then Scotland is in chaos."

The Scottish Reserve Bank is not set up in the months after independence. It is set up in the years before independence, as part of the preparation for the transition. Scotland's independence process - from referendum to independence day - provides the lead time for institution building. The Czech and Slovak central banks were operational from the day of dissolution because both governments prepared in advance. Scotland will do the same.

The currency infrastructure also does not start from zero. Scottish banks already issue banknotes. Scotland already has a functioning financial regulatory system, a sophisticated banking sector, and world-class monetary economists. The Scottish Reserve Bank requires legislation, governance appointments, a mandate, and reserves - not the construction of a monetary system from scratch. Comparable institutions have been established in comparable timeframes repeatedly throughout the post-war period of decolonisation and the post-1989 period of central European independence.

"What if it goes wrong? There's no going back once you've launched a currency."

There is always a going back. Countries abandon currency regimes, adopt foreign currencies, and rejoin monetary unions throughout history. Argentina re-dollarised. Montenegro adopted the euro unilaterally. The Czech Republic will eventually adopt the euro. Currency decisions are not irreversible - they are politically difficult to reverse, which is a different thing.

More substantively: the question "what if it goes wrong?" applies equally to the alternative. What if Scotland remains in the Union and the UK's fiscal position deteriorates further? What if the Bank of England raises rates for English inflation while Scotland is in recession? What if Brexit trade losses continue to compound? Remaining in the Union is not a risk-free option dressed up as prudence. It is a different set of risks, chosen by default rather than by decision. This platform makes the choice deliberately, with a plan, rather than accepting the current arrangement by inertia.

The currency question is not a reason to oppose independence. It is a reason to demand a serious answer. In 2014, the answer was not serious enough. This platform provides one - a Scottish pound, launched at parity, managed by an independent central bank, backed by LVT revenues and a sovereign wealth fund, with exchange rate risk bounded by a managed float and honest transition support for households and businesses. The question deserves this level of seriousness. Scotland deserves this level of preparation.

Primary sources: Bank of England, Norges Bank, IMF, OBR
SCOTLAND'S POUND. OUR CENTRAL BANK. OUR INTEREST RATES.